Learning from the Mennonites

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[Ibn Ghassan]

How can one be highly organized in complete and almost total isolation? the highest litmus test of an entities organizational ability is at the level of an empire or a multi-continental state, how many empires or states have the Mennonites constructed?

Organization is tested on a mammoth scale when people of different races, denominations, religions etcetera come together and then succeed in building up civilizations. Mennonites, by living in obscure locations and shunning the outside world(even if it is modern culture) take away the basic tenement of organizational acumen...and that is the ability to stay on course despite massive gigantic challenges. Do please watch this video:

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[fschmidt]

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[Ibn Ghassan]

Why do they bring shoes into a place of worship, I mean how can one walk on shit in the same shoes and then pray to God in a similar dirty disrespectful manner...coming back to the point on Mennonite organizational acumen, the world has more than 7 billion people now, unless you are looking forward to an Armageddon, we have to involve all in order to move forward and therefore to me Islam seems to be the best choice because it has (despite some of its adherents turning out to be a big disappointment) managed to get people of all regions/races/ethnicities/languages together on a singular platform, this allows it is to define the evil in modern society and yet continue to successfully keep a large majority of its adherents out of that evil loop while continuing to be productive members of that particular society.

Mennonites by virtue of being a radical homogenous Christian community have been left with no choice but to either assimilate into the broader modern evil phenomenon created by their own other Christian counterparts or seclude themselves into a life of rural oblivion...and that cannot be a good thing for this word called “ORGANIZATION”.

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[Ibn Ghassan]

“Humanity has always moved forward by a moral minority.”

I agree with you but this time around, it is the moral Minority of Prophet Muhammed PBUH that got it right and why? Because the moral minority of prophet Jesus PBUH has erred gravely by proclaiming him as God(Nawuzubillah), do remember that any minority or a majority that worships God in the form of a human( be it Jesus or Rama or Buddha or some other so called divine bloodline) is not a moral authority anymore because God simply cannot be defined by any physical(earthly/temporal) contours.

I call them radical because they are going back into the past and trying to rejuvenate a dying faith that has given us the evil modern system we see today...remember that the pathway will still lead to the same destination because the start (direction) they took was wrong in the first place.



> On Nov 25, 2018, at 3:42 PM, fschmidt [via Mikraite] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Humanity has always moved forward by a moral minority.

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[Ibn Ghassan]

“I don't think that being in religious error makes one immoral.”
Morality and ethics came out of religion...and religion is a “pathway” towards the higher goal, what pathway you choose will determine your ultimate destination especially on a civilizational level. The Japanese have an exceptional discipline and a highly dedicated attitude towards social progress, Shintoism came out of Buddhism and is a variant of it, to say that they are the most moral people is an aberration especially if you talk to people in China or Korea or the island communities in South-East Asia who refuse to emulate or copy any of the Japanese culture/social achievements. Japan has some of the highest suicide rates, some of the lowest birth rates as well as a tendency to keep glorifying their nation as an epitome of superiority even after suffering from a demographic decline that is unprecedented in history.

One can learn from anywhere but the most important thing is to unlearn the wrong things that we have learnt.

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> On Nov 25, 2018, at 9:33 PM, fschmidt [via Mikraite] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I don't think that being in religious error makes one immoral.

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[Ibn Ghassan]

“can't really be called Islamic since they are ruled by corrupt dictators who don't care about religion.” I absolutely agree with you, all the so called Muslim countries have a majority Muslim population but in essence their governments and justice system are far far away from what Islam is really about.
One must try to learn from wherever something positive can be learned from and therefore learning from the Mennonites might be something to look at diligently...however I believe that the Sunnah of prophet Muhammad SAW when he lived under a constant threat in Mecca is a very good example to follow for Muslims in exile.

Regards

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:46 AM, fschmidt [via Mikraite] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> can't really be called Islamic since they are ruled by corrupt dictators who don't care about religion.