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Moral alternatives to modern culture

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It has been said that Islam is "Judaism Lite".

I then had the idea of "Islam Lite" - Secular Koranism.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/secular-koranism.html
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Why do you call Orthodox Judaism "racist"?

It is after all possible for a gentile to convert to Orthodox Judaism, even if the process is long and arduous.  
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In what way is Islam fatalistic?

What tweaks would you suggest to Islam?
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Secular Koranism is a legal system, not a belief system

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I don't think you quite understand the nature of Secular Koranism. It is a legal system infused with Koranic principles whose rules people of faith and no faith will know because it is the law. People obey the law not because they agree with the law, but because they fear the law's punishment. We are already accustomed to obeying laws we do not agree with. Secular Koranism does not expect everyone to agree with it and support it or even believe in God, but if it is what their government has adopted, that is what those subject to the authority of the state will have to obey, or else be punished if caught.

Many will argue that Secular Koranism authoritarian, which I do not deny since all laws are coercive and meant to be coercive, but it is certainly not totalitarian.
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"While intelligent Muslims make good Mikraites, Mikraites will make bad Muslims."

Why do you say that?
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Once you have a laws that reflect God's morality, you lay the foundation for belief again. We must not put the cart before the horse.  

It is easier to argue the case for patriarchy to nationalists now that nationalism has become fashionable again than to convert a nation who are mostly Islamophobes, non-Christians, non-Jews and atheists into any religion.  
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Not all religions have deities. Buddhism is an atheist religion.  

Religion is necessary because it is necessarily and logically the basis of our laws, which have to be respected to be enforced and applied.  

All religions are but political ideologies.

Liberalism is a political ideology whose principles go against what are said to be God's laws. Since Liberalism is about feminism, sexual immorality and gender confusion ie gay marriage and unisex toilets it will dismantle whatever social cohesion there is that remains in the West.

It is now hoped that Liberalism will be replaced by nationalism and nationalism has many Conservative ideas. Unfortunately, Conservatism is not a political ideology that has principles that are easily discernible and definable.

If we want social conservatism, it can be found in the Bible and Koran both of which promote patriarchal moral values.  

As you have already said, Christianity is kaput and Judaism is for Jews only with a long and arduous conversion process that will put off most people who are overwhelmingly atheist and irreligious anyway. What remains therefore is an Islamic theocracy.  

When you have eliminated the impossible, what remains, however improbable, must be the answer.
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How are laws "almost irrelevant" if they punish immoral behaviour?
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